FLASH FORWARD TO THE HIPPIES!
As time passes, more and more people come to the island via instructions handed down from the ancient Egyptians and eventually we end up with a group of people called the Dharma Initiative. These folks come to the island to do testing and experiments (based on external LOST information we might conclude that they have come to the island because they believe the earth is coming to an end and they might be able to use the power of the island to stop the series of events that will end the earth). We also see that in the Dharma school house the children are being taught how to read Egyptian hieroglyphics therefore there is clearly a connection between what is currently happening on the island with what had happened originally with the Egyptians.
The Dharma Initiative is somewhat sophisticated. After all, in the 1970’s we were able to successfully put a man on the moon, along with so many other important inventions. Dharma started experimenting with time on the island. They started channeling the light/time/water which manipulated time. They most likely figured out quickly that if you are not careful with how you move through time you can hemorrhage your brain and die (the worst nose bleed ever!). Therefore, they did a lot of testing, and found that it was most effective to test animals that were similar in size to humans. But even more importantly, they needed a mammal with a brain that was a similar size to a human brain. Therefore, the Dharma Initiative brought Polar Bears to the island for testing purposes. One of the side effects to time travel (at least near the Orchid Station) is when the traveler is ejected out of the time worm- hole and transported to the Tunisian desert, which clearly had happened to at least one poor Polar Bear that Charlotte found in the episode “Confirmed Dead”.
HIPPIES DON’T NEED GOD TO LIVE FOREVER!
Or so they think. Just as every person who had came before them, the Dharma folks eventually lose their interest in saving the world and find out that they themselves can benefit from the golden cave of light and time. They realize that by continually traveling back in time they can effectively live forever! They perfect the process and find that to have the least amount of adverse side effects from the time travel they will reset time about every two hours, or 108 minutes to be precise. There is one problem with their plan however, they can’t have the time resetting device too near their own living quarters because it turns out that if you travel in time backwards you can never get to the future to travel in time again (it’s a paradox). In other words… if they are pushing the button themselves their entire life is like a skipping record and they can never live normally. So, they decide to create the button pushing device far away from their living quarters in a hatch that they seclude as to separate them as far as possible from their button-pushing guinea pigs. The hatch was built near another pocket of electromagnetism (time) and these two pockets of magnetism acted like wormholes to each other, but the important part was that the button would reset time near the other wormhole which was by the orchid station and therefore the Dharma folks could live forever (theoretically).
Eventually, the “Others” kill off the Dharma folks but continue to use the time traveling scheme to their advantage as Ben knows the drill and is able to live a healthy “normal” life in Dharmaville with his fake girlfriend Juliette and his fake daughter Alex.
Another problem with the Dharma plan to continually reset time is that time is building up all around it. Imagine our water clock with a partially plugged time hole, the pressure behind it keeps increasing because time wants to happen! And when that button isn’t pushed, time gushes through like a raging river pulling everything with it as it goes. Keeping time steady is like a balancing act, you can’t allow too much to escape, but you also can’t allow too much to be held back and while Dharma had perfected the balancing act to some extent there were “incidents” that happened along the way.
Which is why each time the button isn’t pressed the island rushes through time trying to “catch up” with the ever passing moment. When Desmond fails to press the button on September 22, 2004, which brought down flight 815, it also caused Dharmaville to lose some of the time they had made for themselves and their bodies feel the wrath of time as Ben develops the cancer on his spine which he had been avoiding via time travel.
Another interesting example of this is in season 2 in the episode Maternity Leave Claire is having flashbacks when she was abducted by Ethan and the “Other’s” and is brought to what looks like a fully functioning, modern, clean hospital station underground. They are treating her with “medicine” and are preparing to “take” her baby from her. She later escapes with the help of Rousseau. In that same episode Rousseau and Kate take Claire to the Dharma medical facility in hopes of finding the “medicine” that Ethan was given Claire and the baby but this time when they find the medical station is appears to be abandoned and shows the effects of many months (possibly years) of being vacant. So how is it that a place like that can look so old and run down in such a short amount of time? The answer is found in the episode One of Them which was aired directly prior to Maternity Leave. In One of them, Sayid is in the hatch trying to get the truth from Ben, AKA Henry Gale, and he has locked himself in the armory so that he can torture Ben. Jack is mad that Locke has lied to him to allow Sayid to torture Ben so Jack and Locke start to tussle.
During this struggle, the hatch timer runs out and the red hieroglyphics appear and things start to shake (time is starting to rush to the present). After just a couple moments Jack allows Locke to enter the numbers and the clock is reset to 108. Yet in just that short amount of time that the clock was at zero I believe several months, or possibly a couple years rushed by which explains why the medical station seemed to age so dramatically in just a short amount of time.
Continue…
Vincent you ask? I’m sure he maybe with Walt on the island with Walt helping his dad still trying to pass on.
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…..having evolved into an independent physical theorist since ‘LOST’ with a scale-unifying, comparatively-simplified physics model that contextualizes almost all of this thing called’ existence’ – ‘time’, ‘gravity’, sound’, ‘electricity’ (an axial expression concentrated through magnetism’s passage through denser ‘effective’ media) ALL, resonant secondary magnetic informational effects to it (‘heat’, a tertiary one, JUST as subjective) seeing it as a STRONG warning, cautionary tale IN / about 2019-2021+, the ‘pandemic’ more than EVER (where an agency called ‘DHARMA’ – a Hindu religious reference yet, nearly SYNONYMOUS with REAL-world ‘DARPA’ and Australian Alan Dale’s Charles Widmore, a Robert Maxwell / Rupert Murdoch / George Soros type of tycoon, megalomaniac) – its ‘golden light’ (LONG an occult object, instinctively valued by, affecting our species) is perceived suprahuman: power, knowledge, understanding, insight (as opposed to, or not necessarily with, wisdom) coherence, ‘constructive entanglement’, awareness, ‘love’, appreciation – and yes ‘go(o)d’, if NOT universally so…..
…..Jacob & ‘The Man In Black’ are, as is SO commonly found, two symbolic sides of the SAME extremist conceit, one which goes to transhumanistically disintegral lengths to maintain MATERIAL life including worship and FORCING of science upon it, largely represented through attempts at reversal of a CATASTROPHIC infertility problem and what’s ULTIMATELY revealed as a collective ethereal construct produced under PROFOUND traumatic stress before CERTAIN characters’ physical expiration (OTHERS, story-serving ARTIFICIAL – or SYNTHETIC – creations); another seeking to DISSOLVE it as part of faith in a ‘NATURAL order’ (of COURSE Locke was going to be an associated dualistic avatar, represented by the DEATHLY ‘Smoke Monster’) this groundbreaking show’s CORE theme, if less than apparent to MANY viewers a decade ago…..
…..having evolved into an independent physical theorist since ‘LOST’ with a scale-unifying, comparatively-simplified physics model that contextualizes almost all of this thing called’ existence’ – ‘time’, ‘gravity’, sound’, ‘electricity’ (an axial expression concentrated through magnetism’s passage through denser ‘effective’ media) ALL, resonant secondary magnetic informational effects to it (‘heat’, a tertiary one, JUST as subjective) seeing it as a STRONG warning, cautionary tale IN / about 2019-2021+, the ‘pandemic’ more than EVER (where an agency called ‘DHARMA’ – a Hindu religious reference yet, nearly SYNONYMOUS with REAL-world ‘DARPA’ and Australian Alan Dale’s Charles Widmore, a Robert Maxwell / Rupert Murdoch / George Soros type of tycoon, megalomaniac) – its ‘golden light’ (LONG an occult object, instinctively valued by, affecting our species) is perceived suprahuman: power, knowledge, understanding, insight (as opposed to, or not necessarily with, wisdom) coherence, ‘constructive entanglement’, awareness, ‘love’, appreciation – and yes ‘go(o)d’, if NOT universally so…..
…..Jacob & ‘The Man In Black’ are, as is SO commonly found, two symbolic sides of the SAME extremist conceit, one which goes to transhumanistically disintegral lengths to maintain MATERIAL life including worship and FORCING of science upon it, largely represented through attempts at reversal of a CATASTROPHIC infertility problem and what’s ULTIMATELY revealed as a collective ethereal construct produced under PROFOUND traumatic stress before CERTAIN characters’ physical expiration (OTHERS, story-serving ARTIFICIAL – or SYNTHETIC – creations); another seeking to DISSOLVE it as part of faith in a ‘NATURAL order’ (of COURSE Locke was going to be an associated dualistic avatar, represented by the DEATHLY ‘Smoke Monster’) this groundbreaking show’s CORE theme, if less than apparent to MANY viewers a decade ago…..
The plane discovered in the ocean was planted by whitmore
So at the end and in the church, everyone’s pass was resolved and they were able to move on which was what? Why didn’t Ben join the group? So what happened to Vincent? Also what you are saying is that, there was a time difference for each one as to when they were actually dead and would go to the church and when they all had died, then they would go to the church. Was Boune’s sister in the church?
There were a few eps in the second and third seasons where a plane crash underwater was mentioned (by people outside of our original group of passengers only), and it was flight 815. All the bodies were there. How is this explained within your theory?
Wow!! This made so much sense.
I’m halfway into watching season 2. I watched Lost when it came out. Totally didnt have a clue then. Now, with 15 years of living, learning, making mistakes behind me, I see! I see! At least the twist & turns don’t trip me up any more. I can see my life that I’m living now, my past, in Jin & Sun’s battles with their past
Just finished watching it. And yes, I had heard the spoiler that “they were dead the whole time” which kinda ruined it for me because I kept waiting for that shoe to drop and it didnt. They were NOT dead the whole time. It was also difficult to wrap my mind around the alternate universe/purgatory while the same characters were still living on the island. When Christian said at the end that there “is no now”, then that made sense everyone had died at different times and ended up at the church with Jack to help him move on much like Rose in Titanic. I think because Jack was clearly a non-believer up to a certain point, it was harder for him to accept the afterlife. The DVD contains a short feature on what happened AFTER the end where Walt becomes the protector. I liked that and I’m glad they added it in.
Wow!! Great read!
This may have already been addressed, but why is Penny in the church at the end? She was not dead. Ben threatened to kill Penny as he believed Charles Whitmore was responsible for Alex’s death, but he never went through with it. Instead, he accepted the fact that he was the cause of Alex’s death, not Whitmore. Therefore, Penny should still be alive. Am I missing something?
You are a wizard. Thank you.
great insights!!
Regardless of the vehicle used in the series, to me it was all about the title.
All these people were truly lost in their lives, suffering tremendously due to their own doing or circumstances. They were pathless and leading to self destruction. To find their way back to balance and happiness they had to confront their greatest fears and let go of the things they should stop to try to control, that are actually controlling them. The island is an evolving mechanism with a variety of pitfall for them that they must endure and overcome. Once they let go they find inner peace, and meaning to their lives and experiences, and a shared love of life and people they have known.
Just my take:)
One of the most unwatchable shows ever!